In this episode of Force and Friction, we welcome Nick Tomic, founder of FaceToFace.io and ProductMarketFit.io, to dive deep into what it really takes to achieve product-market fit.
Having interviewed over 1,000 SaaS founders, Nick has uncovered critical insights on what separates successful startups from those that never gain traction.
From avoiding common mistakes to knowing when to scale, Nick shares battle-tested lessons every SaaS founder needs to hear.
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Here are the core areas we discuss in today's episode:
Achieving product-market fit (PMF) isn’t about launching a product and hoping it sticks. Nick emphasizes that true PMF is when a product not only solves a problem but becomes indispensable to its users.
“Your first users are your most valuable asset. If they don’t stick around, neither will your business.”
Nick shares how early-stage founders can measure PMF, why traditional metrics like revenue don’t always indicate success, and how to know when you’ve truly hit the mark.
Nick challenges founders to identify what type of entrepreneur they are, and why it matters. He breaks it down into three categories:
“If you don’t know who you are, you’ll struggle to find the right opportunities.”
Understanding your strengths helps founders make better decisions about product development, team-building, and market positioning.
Before returning to tech, Nick ventured into the tire-changing business, a decision that cost him two years, financial struggles, and a hard lesson in product-market fit.
“I was chasing revenue instead of solving a real problem I cared about. That’s the fastest way to burn out.”
His takeaway? Stay in your lane. Focus on industries where you have knowledge, passion, and strategic advantage.
Having worked with hundreds of SaaS founders, Nick has seen why most startups never reach product-market fit. The biggest mistakes?
“If your first feature doesn’t sell itself, no number of extra features will fix that.”
Nick advises founders to resist the temptation to “build their way” to PMF and instead focus on solving one clear problem exceptionally well.
Nick believes that founders should be their company’s first sales reps. By engaging directly with early users, they get real-time feedback and can refine their product faster.
“Your first 10-50 customers should come from direct conversations. If you can’t sell your product, neither can your team.”
He discusses why early-stage SaaS companies should prioritize sales over marketing, using direct outreach and networking to validate demand before investing in paid acquisition.
Nick built FaceToFace.io after struggling to communicate with early users of his own SaaS products. His solution? A tool that lets founders see where users get stuck, engage in real-time, and improve activation rates.
Key benefits of FaceToFace.io:
“The best way to get to PMF is by talking to your users. FaceToFace.io makes that easier than ever.”
Nick Tomic’s journey offers a masterclass in resilience, adaptability, and smart decision-making.
Whether you’re an early-stage SaaS founder or scaling your startup, his lessons on focusing, validating demand, and engaging users directly are invaluable.
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